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		By: LR		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s interesting that Jill doesn&#039;t really know what she wants. You could get a lot of mileage out of her exploring that. Best if it&#039;s not too heavy handed and she never nails it down entirely. Stories that you can wrap and tie up with a bow are not necessarily the best stories. 

How many people do you know, that don&#039;t drive you nuts, think they have their own wants all figured out? Out of that group, how many really have figured it out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that Jill doesn&#8217;t really know what she wants. You could get a lot of mileage out of her exploring that. Best if it&#8217;s not too heavy handed and she never nails it down entirely. Stories that you can wrap and tie up with a bow are not necessarily the best stories. </p>
<p>How many people do you know, that don&#8217;t drive you nuts, think they have their own wants all figured out? Out of that group, how many really have figured it out?</p>
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		By: Theris		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[When reading this, I was reminded of one of the &quot;Every Frame a Painting&quot; video you posted (the Evolution of the Artist). On it, it&#039;s mentionned that a character should be defined by his desires and the way the character moves to fulfil them. 

I think it&#039;s a bit closer to your Peggy comparison : &quot;Character wants [X] and due to his personality does [Y]&quot;. In Peggy&#039;s case it would be &quot;Peggy wants to be seen as a high class lady, and since she is superficial and not a classy lady tends to overdo it&quot;. The obstacle you mention should be more like the people who don&#039;t respect her as a lady (like the Rat champion who only sees her as a subordinate) and those who keep humilating her (like Jill). Maybe one should mix the three : the wants to get the character to move, the obstacles to give him concrete objectives, and the traits to define how he removes the obstacles.

About Jill, isn&#039;t that a common problem with protagonists ? Since they tend to be the ones reacting the the plot, you don&#039;t get many opportunities to define their wants. I think it would have been good if Jill had some kind of goal outside of the plot (Introducing Riley sooner could have helped, I suppose). 

And now that I think about it, this is probably why I can&#039;t seem to think of a coherent plot for my stories myself : since my protagoonists almost never have a goal by themselves, it&#039;s hard to get the plot going...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When reading this, I was reminded of one of the &#8220;Every Frame a Painting&#8221; video you posted (the Evolution of the Artist). On it, it&#8217;s mentionned that a character should be defined by his desires and the way the character moves to fulfil them. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a bit closer to your Peggy comparison : &#8220;Character wants [X] and due to his personality does [Y]&#8221;. In Peggy&#8217;s case it would be &#8220;Peggy wants to be seen as a high class lady, and since she is superficial and not a classy lady tends to overdo it&#8221;. The obstacle you mention should be more like the people who don&#8217;t respect her as a lady (like the Rat champion who only sees her as a subordinate) and those who keep humilating her (like Jill). Maybe one should mix the three : the wants to get the character to move, the obstacles to give him concrete objectives, and the traits to define how he removes the obstacles.</p>
<p>About Jill, isn&#8217;t that a common problem with protagonists ? Since they tend to be the ones reacting the the plot, you don&#8217;t get many opportunities to define their wants. I think it would have been good if Jill had some kind of goal outside of the plot (Introducing Riley sooner could have helped, I suppose). </p>
<p>And now that I think about it, this is probably why I can&#8217;t seem to think of a coherent plot for my stories myself : since my protagoonists almost never have a goal by themselves, it&#8217;s hard to get the plot going&#8230;</p>
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